#10: Autor: Leteci mungos,
Postano: 07.10.2010. 15:57
Tip je dao premalo informacija, a valjda je mislio da mi nemamo Internet. Kao sto i pise u clanku, proguglajte "HHO kit scam" ;-)
Tip kaze da je presao 500km s jednim rezervoarom? Hm, ako mu je rezervoar 40L, znaci da mu auto trosi manje od 8L, odnosno ta tvrdnja ne dokazuje nista (koliko inace trosi taj Escort?)
No, manje benzina ce trositi i ako se smanji snaga motora. Mozda je covjek samo izgubio na snazi motora za vise % nego sto je ustedio goriva. Nije morao nista ugradjivati u auto - isto to je mogao postici kupovinom automobila s motorom manje zapremine/snage.
Evo jedno dobro objasnjenje, koje ukljucuje ono najbitnije - motiv onih koji prosipaju te price o HHO kitevima (na koju je i nas inovator nasjeo) te sve svodi na snagu, sto je zapravo kljuc svega.
Skriveno:
The "Run Car on Water" Scam Busted
Far too many people are not informed enough to avoid being defraudedand "ripped off" when it comes to devices they believe to be theresult of technological advances in science. Technologies advance sofast and some times in such unexpected ways that few non-scientistscan know if a device being sold can in fact perform as its sellersclaim it does
In the past two years a "water as fuel" scam has been spreading overthe internet, and far too few people have the science background toknow it is a scam. This is not because they are "stupid," or "idiots:"it is just that ignorance is the default human condition, and one hasto seek out and acquire specialized knowledge to know if a deal thatsounds too good to be true really is true
The fraudulent devices go by many names, and their sellers andpromoters make many claims about the devices. Some call them "HHOcells;" some call them "Brown's gas cells." The phrases and claimsvary, but the fraudulent devices being sold are pretty much the same
The devices claim to produce enough hydrogen, using electricity tobreak the chemical bonds in water, to improve an automobile's miles-per-gallon consumption of fuel. Usually the sellers claim that theelectricity used to break the chemical bonds of water, thereforereleasing oxygen and hydrogen gasses, is "free" in that theautomobile's alternator powers the system. None of these claims aretrue
In fact, these devices waste gasoline when installed in automobiles,as they increase the time the automobile's alternator must energizeits field coil, thus adding additional friction to the engine. Theamount of hydrogen produced, when converted into energy viacombustion, is always, without exception, less than the amount ofenergy the gasoline used to provide that additional electrical energy.It always, without exception, requires more energy to break thechemical bonds of water than the gases produce will provide to theautomobile's engine
One can calculate how much power, in Watts, an automobile requires torun at a given speed. P = kg * V * DV * / Dt where the weight of thevehicle in kilograms is multiplied by the speed (V) in meters persecond (DV) divided by the drag in distance over time (Dt)
For one example, to maintain my Toyota pickup at 55 miles per hour,the vehicle must consume 18,146 Watts (24.35 horsepower)
Many of the scam devices claim a fuel efficiency (in miles per gallon)increase of around 30%. That means the device must produce enoughhydrogen to provide 5,444 additional watts to the engine--- inaddition to the gasoline consumed. That means, if the HHO deviceconverted the energy from the alternator into hydrogen at 100%efficiency (which is impossible), and that hydrogen provided 100%energy efficiency to the engine (also an impossibility), the HHOdevice must consume 394 Amps to provide enough hydrogen and oxygen toproduce enough energy to increase MPG by 30%
And yet most of the HHO devices draw at most 9 Amps, and theirefficiency at converting that 9 Amps into hydrogen is a small fractionof 100%
Not only does the math prove the devices are worthless, but actualtesting prove they are worthless. The United States EnvironmentProtection Agency tested nearly two dozen HHO devices, and everysingle one tested were shown to be worthless
More to the point, if these devices actually performed as theirsellers' claim, every automobile manufacturer would have long ago madethem standard equipment: they would already be in our automobiles, andin every new automobile made. The USA government has ordered carmanufacturers to build more fuel-efficient automobiles, and if theseHHO devices actually worked, that requirement would be easily met witha tiny fraction of the cost auto manufacturers are currently spendingworking to meet that requirement
The only "evidence" that promoters of the HHO "water car" / "water asfuel" scam can provide is anonymous testimonials which they write tosell the worthless devices. Worse yet, many of these devices are soldin pyramid scams, called "multi-level marketing," or "networkmarketing," which defrauds not only the victim who buys them, but alsothe sellers who believe the devices work as claimed. That is, manysellers have been stuck with hundreds of these useless devices, andthey cannot find enough suckers to buy them
The bottom line is:
1) these HHO devices cannot convert enough electrical energy intomechanical energy to perform as the sellers claim;
2) all tests of these devices show them to be worthless;
3) the laws of physics mandate a loss of energy, every time, withoutexception, when HHO devices are used;
4) not all of the sellers and promoters of the scam know it's a scam,until they put one in their own cars and discover it's a scam;
5) if they worked, new cars would already have them installed;
6) and finally, something that is clearly too good to be true almostalways is.
I jos malo... http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho_scam.shtml
@valent, evo i objasnjenje za onog Japanca sto je koa napravio auto na vodu [koje se poklapa s onim sto sam pisao o tom slucaju]: http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho_scammers_claims.shtml
Ali kao sto sam i ranije rekao - uvijek treba dati prostora i onima koji ne vjeruju u zakone termodinamike, jer nikad ne znas kad ce netko od njih biti u pravu ;-) Uostalom, skepsa je jedna od temeljnih osobina covjeka koja mu je omogucila da bude najnaprednije bice na Zemlji...
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